Commons:Deletion requests/File:Philly042107-014-RockyStatue.jpg

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File:Philly042107-014-RockyStatue.jpg edit

There is no freedom of panorama for sculptures in the United States. This statue is by A. Thomas Schomberg (who is still alive) and was commissioned by Sylvester Stallone in 1981. I note the file was tagged as a possible copyvio in 2014. The uploader removed the tag themselves with the reasoning "this is a non-obvious case as the photos is a part of a scene and not the center of the photograph. This has already been debated and allowed." In fact, no discussion has taken place and the logic is flawed. The purpose of the photo is to show the statue in its surroundings but the statue is the focal point (blatantly from the filename). A wider photo might have met this argument but it is clear that the intention was to highlight the statue. Although the file description mentions the famous steps that Rocky ran up, they are not very visible in the photo, being located off to the left beyond the wall, apart from a small out-of-focus portion in the left corner. The museum itself is more background rather than part of the scene. How does this match the uploaders claim of showing the scene? The answer is it doesn’t. 2A02:C7C:1018:6E00:3161:5743:507:874B 12:53, 5 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Hi there, the photo is of the scene in front of the Philadelphia Museum of Art. I see you are attempting to attribute intent via a textural inference from the file name, when I take hundreds of photos and add them to give myself some recollection, hence the -014- in the middle. As a point of reference, before I started doing that my file names were far too confusing. I just added names to jog my memory in looking at big file folders (e.g. where was I standing when I took the photo), I don't create file names for Wikipedia because that would be weird. The link in the earlier discussion was a previous attempt to speedy the image by another person who feels that an image framed very much on the edge of my photo is apparently my intent, rather than the scene in front of the Philadelphia Museum of Art (that attempt that was pulled by a different Wikipedian). I make no apologies for the file name, there is no grand conspiracy. If it makes that big of a difference, we could simply rename the file rather than delete it. Bobak (talk) 00:15, 6 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

No, it seems you’ve misunderstood. My point was not so much about the file name. The fact is the photo shows the copyright statue in the foreground. The US does not allow permit publication of photos of statues whose copyright holders are still alive or within 70 years of their death, unless the copyright holder gives permission. It shows the side of the museum and the side of the famous steps in the background. It is difficult to see this as not being focussed on the statue, whether it is at the right, centre or left of the photo because the statue is so prominently in the foreground. Additionally this is not the front of the museum that we can see. The actual front is at the top of the steps at the plaza, about a hundred yards away from where the photo was taken. The part of the museum building we can see in the background is the back of the eastern wing. 2A02:C7C:1018:6E00:D1E4:7DB6:9589:EC2E 12:24, 10 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Deleted: Clearly the only reason this might dreserve space on Commons is the statue. Without the statue it is an akward photo of the museum and the back end of the other statue. . Jim . . . (Jameslwoodward) (talk to me) 22:48, 23 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]